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he wants to go back after bill for using his name but why is he wading into this mess? >> i think robert frank had it right. there is a real personal -- >> the ego trumps the money. >> baggage here. these guys really strongly dislike each other. remember watching obama and romney on the campaign trail and in the debates? these guys really couldn't stand each other. that was the palpable feeling at times. i think we heard that over the phone today. the rhetoric speaks for itself. >> mandy just pulled an irish exit. puff of smoke. boom. she is hosting closing bell. let's finalize it with this. what is the next step? is it over between these guys? what is going to happen here? >> i think they've had their say for today. i wouldn't be surprised if some sort of words resurface weeks from now. i think the herbalife saga will go on. ackman will certainly continue to make his feelings public and eiicahn can't resist a jab. >> he was talking about herbalife being short, difficult to borrow. i got an e-mail from a prominent hedge fund manager. he said it is wrong. it is easy to borrow herba
as an extraordinarily good fixed income manager but he has waded into equities. i don't know if it is reflected on his fronts. >> five times earnings, i don't know. bethlehem steel two times earnings two years before it went bankrupt. isn't that something two years before. the multiples shrunk. or would love to get apple five times earnings, three times earnings cash. like to get cash. >> sure, why not? >> i got to believe that conversation is going to -- >>> it the multiple too low here. >> netflix, largest gains since 2002 when it rose 40.8%. best day for that stock in a decade. >> that was a conference call that was -- there was a guy on that conference call, said listen, hatehood you guys forever, really delivered, some very funny quotes, one of those where you sit there and say, wow, said it was loved, apple again, and then this moment where reed hastings talks, facebook, facebook board member, people say facebook will buy them. facebook will buy them. >> not that long ago, looking at the content cost of netflix and looking at the subscription additions that they needed to have in order to meet t
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